NEW YORK (AP) 鈥 They dreamt up universes of hotdog fingers, googly-eyed rocks and 鈥淩accaccoonie.鈥 But Daniel Kwan and Daniel Scheinert, in this world or another, never imagined the kind of runaway success 鈥淓verything Everywhere All at Once鈥 would have on the Oscar trail.
For the past year, since 鈥 debuted at SXSW, the filmmaking duo known as the Daniels has been living in what has sometimes felt to them like a parallel dimension. They never expected that their madcap multiverse tale would take them to the Oscars. They still, sometimes, don鈥檛 believe it.
鈥淚t feels like we鈥檙e in our movie sometimes,鈥 Scheinert says. 鈥淎t some point we鈥檙e going to get pulled out of this joke and be back to our own lives and be like, 鈥極h, wouldn鈥檛 that be cool? Too bad.鈥欌
Yet 鈥淓verything Everywhere All at Once鈥 has emerged as the most improbable of heavyweights. An absurdist indie that pairs existentialism and everything bagels, released way back in March last year, is not just heading for a few possible wins at the Oscars on March 12. It鈥檚 poised to steamroll.
It's the favorite to win best picture, best director, best actress for , best supporting actor for and potentially best supporting actress for Jamie Lee Curtis. A movie with fanny-pack-styled kung fu about a middle-aged woman filing her taxes is on course to best blockbusters ) and Spielberg ( ), alike.
If 鈥淓verything Everywhere All at Once鈥 鈥 and already a winner with the predictive , and guilds 鈥 wins best picture, it will be one of the most anti-Oscar bait winners ever. Among other historic feats, it will almost certainly be the first best picture winner to prominently feature butt plugs.
鈥淚n kink-positive people鈥檚 defense, you can put almost anything up your butt,鈥 Scheinert says, laughing. 鈥淪o, in a way, every single Oscar movie has a butt plug. You just have to be creative.鈥
Getting creative has been part of the Daniels鈥 method since they first met at while studying film at Emerson College in Boston. Kwan, a Massachusetts native, and Scheinert, from Alabama, started off making music videos and shorts. Their feature film debut, 2016鈥檚 starred Daniel Radcliffe as a flatulence-emitting corpse. 鈥淓verything Everywhere All at Once鈥 is just their second feature. The Daniels are each 35.
The unexpected success 鈥 the A24 release has grossed more than $100 million worldwide against a $14.3 million budget 鈥 has thrown off the trajectory the Daniels imagined they might be on. In a recent, rare lull between awards ceremonies, they spoke by Zoom from Kwan鈥檚 home office. He apologized for the mess, a disorder that reminded him of their film.
鈥淚 keep saying I鈥檒l do it once the movie promoting is done,鈥 Kwan says, nearly a year after it opened.
However many Oscars 鈥淓verything Everywhere All at Once鈥 ultimately wins 鈥 it won't be a bagel 鈥 it鈥檚 clear to Kwan that nothing will ever be quite the same after their unexpected lurch onto Hollywood's highest stage.
鈥淚鈥檝e gone through so many cycles of euphoria and depression and manic episodes,鈥 Kwan, a gentle and introspective soul, says. 鈥淚鈥檝e realized that I鈥檓 never going to get to back to my old life. That struck me at one of my low points and I had to actually mourn the loss of our lives. That can be both incredible and sad at the same time.鈥
When 鈥淓verything Everywhere All at Once鈥 landed in theaters, it ignited the specialty film business after two years of pandemic, driving moviegoers back to art houses and becoming A24鈥檚 biggest box-office smash. But even then, awards talk was mostly farfetched. It wasn鈥檛 until the fall, when it that the buzz started to get real. Affection for the film just kept building. Early naysaying that the film was too strange for older academy voters has proved wrong.
Scheinert wryly recalls telling cast and crew on set: 鈥淲e're not making an Oscar movie here. This movie is about quantity, not quality.鈥 And yet, by a twist of fate, a movie made without any thought of the Academy Awards is set to conquer them.
鈥淭he industry at large is going through a lot of soul searching," says Kwan. "What happened with theatrical during the pandemic, what鈥檚 happening now with streaming, the fact that OscarsSoWhite has caused the makeup of the academy to change. We are in such a moment of flux that I do think somehow this strange movie has stuck a chord.鈥
鈥淲e feel like this film is reflective of what reality feels like, to us, at least,鈥 Kwan adds. 鈥淭he fact that people are responding to it is really affirming: Oh, you see what I see.鈥
At a time when Hollywood's main studio product is in franchises, remakes and sequels, 鈥淓verything Everywhere All at Once鈥 is also a movie brimming with originality. (This is the first Oscar year two sequels, 鈥淢averick鈥 and 鈥淎vatar: The Way of Water," are nominated for best picture.) A vote for 鈥淓verything Everywhere All at Once鈥 is a vote for something different.
鈥淭here鈥檚 something really important about stretching your own imagination in your everyday life. We create these narratives about ourselves and then we accidentally get trapped in them often," says Kwan. 鈥淚 grew up with a lot of self-doubt and self-loathing. The fact that I鈥檓 now a director who鈥檚 been able to find some success is just such a narrative-shattering, imagination-stretching idea that I would have never been able to imagine a few years ago.鈥
To Scheinert, the film's 鈥渟ecret weapon" is its cast. Even if the movie isn't to your taste, he says, 鈥淵ou can't hate Ke and Michelle." Yeoh, long one of the big-screen's martial arts powerhouses, has said throughout awards season that 鈥淓verything Everywhere All at Once" opened a new door to her as an actor. Quan, a former child star who had given up acting after years of struggle, has said an Oscar wasn't his goal. He just wanted a job.
鈥淚f our movie can un-typecast people and un-typecast the community, that鈥檚 a pretty dope thing,鈥 says Scheinert.
Reached by phone the morning of Oscar nominations, Yeoh said she never imagined, when they started making 鈥淓verything Everywhere All at Once," that they were destined for the Academy Awards.
鈥淲e鈥檙e a tiny little movie with a big beating heart, without a doubt,鈥 said Yeoh. 鈥淲e had ambitions because we felt that our story just needed to be told. In times of chaos and turbulence, this is a movie about healing. It鈥檚 about love. It鈥檚 about a very ordinary person 鈥 which we all are 鈥攚ho鈥檚 given the opportunity to be a superhero with superpowers that are love and compassion.鈥
On stage after stage, the Daniels, Yeoh, Quan and more have brought the house down with moving speeches about Asian representation. At the Screen Actors Guild Awards on Sunday, : 鈥淭o all those at home who are watching, who are struggling and waiting to be seen, please keep on going because the spotlight will one day find you." Ninety-four-year-old James Hong, the film's crotchety patriarch, reflected at the SAGs on Hollywood's dismal history of depicting Asian and Asian-American life. Then he declared triumphantly: 鈥淟ook at us now!鈥
鈥淓verything Everything Everywhere All at Once,鈥 an antic metaphor for the immigrant experience of Asian Americans, has made its own case for a different movie universe, one where heroes look like Yeoh's Evelyn Quan Wang or Quan's Waymond Wang.
鈥淚f I was growing up with a film like this or with this conversation happening, I would be a very different kind of person and a very different kind of Asian American,鈥 says Kwan. 鈥淢ost of my life, the Asian part of my experience was something to be erased or something to ignore because it felt more like a liability than a strength.鈥
So there are many alternate realities to the lives behind 鈥淓verything Everywhere All at Once" 鈥 mostly less joyful ones where this movie doesn't exist for them, or anyone else.
Rewind exactly a year and a day from the March 12 Oscars and with little idea of what was to come. Asked by an audience member what got left on the cutting room floor, Scheinert with a twinge of regret suggested another universe, entirely: Spaghetti Baby Noodle Boy, with a talking macaroni who doesn't understand why he's not spaghetti, voiced by Jenny Slate.
Another road not taken, yes. But as Scheinert noted, there's always the DVD.
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